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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Apr 4, 2021 17:57:07 GMT -5
my factory motor was always pretty healthy....we are pretty much at sea level here too so that may help a bit as well.
idk what the numbers would have been corrected, probably closer to 145ish id wager to guess.
same dyno has been shown correct multiple times in my buddys EVO within 10/20HP vs his virtual dyno logs (hes around 800awhp). cant speak for my NA dyno (it was quick back then), but the turbo logs definitely feel like 220ish HP
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Post by mimino on Jun 6, 2021 14:59:12 GMT -5
I've had enough of the oil smoke at idle and coming to stops. Never any smoke under boost, which I assume is due to pressure differentials on cold/hot sides during boost that keep the seal. Took the chra apart and posted some pics below. Bearings are all scored up, as well as the shaft. Turbine wheel area is all coked up (oil slinger, snap ring). I am now taking the compressor wheel off this one and going to send my fresh VJ-11 off to G-Pop Shop to get it all balanced. Going to meet up with a local fabricator to see if we can fab up a new o2 housing that is more free flowing than the sub 2" stock one. If that's too cost prohibitive, I may just get the stock one ported/polished out. Carnage: imgur.com/a/ibzPplt
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Post by krux303 on Jun 6, 2021 16:49:13 GMT -5
I've had enough of the oil smoke at idle and coming to stops. Never any smoke under boost, which I assume is due to pressure differentials on cold/hot sides during boost that keep the seal. Took the chra apart and posted some pics below. Bearings are all scored up, as well as the shaft. Turbine wheel area is all coked up (oil slinger, snap ring). I am now taking the compressor wheel off this one and going to send my fresh VJ-11 off to G-Pop Shop to get it all balanced. Going to meet up with a local fabricator to see if we can fab up a new o2 housing that is more free flowing than the sub 2" stock one. If that's too cost prohibitive, I may just get the stock one ported/polished out. Carnage: imgur.com/a/ibzPpltLooks well used in some parts. Glad your taking the time to fix it. Keep us posted.
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Post by mimino on Jun 26, 2021 19:31:45 GMT -5
G-pop did a great job on the rebalance, and the service itself was only $65. I haven't ragged on it on the highway, but did a few pulls on the street, and she is running great again with no oiling issues.
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Post by krux303 on Jun 27, 2021 8:54:28 GMT -5
G-pop did a great job on the rebalance, and the service itself was only $65. I haven't ragged on it on the highway, but did a few pulls on the street, and she is running great again with no oiling issues. Sweet. Will you be uploading any videos?
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Post by mimino on Oct 2, 2021 9:25:10 GMT -5
well, we're back to puffs of smoke again lol this thing is driving me nutz! i guess it's backing up into the turbo from the pan, as it's not really dripping out of the turbine housing, but rather i see wet spots around the drain fitting now. our very nice engine design is not conducive to good drains to the pan (sits tilted towards the front of the car)... i think the pan itself holds only 3.5 quarts of oil, so you'd have to run it at least 1 quart low and that just doesn't excite me... i'm about to go pull a windage tray at a local jy and see if i can tap into a spot there without damaging my rod caps this time lmao i'm thinking about either the same spot or a bit below if i can route the line from the turbo without kinking it. i'll drill a hole out then secure the fitting, so it stays in place, then fill the whole square with epoxy (marine-tex). i think either of the circled bottom ones should do the trick, as the rod cap doesn't move that far down. if that bitch smokes after all this... well, let's not go that far yet lol for your viewing (dis)pleasure:
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 2, 2021 9:40:50 GMT -5
i remember your posts about that back in the TeamZX2 days... anyhow, whats wrong with the X location indicated in this post : evilzx2s.com/post/2056/thread ? i believe thats the recommended return location in some manufacturers turbo or supercharger kit on the focus (SVT i think the instructions were for?) if i can find that document ill post it up, but these instructions ive seen have you drilling and tapping the windage tray in that location for a bulkhead like fitting without removing the windage tray at all! my plan is still to use this location but have an aluminum NPT female welded in at a more vertical angle pointing more straight towards the turbo drain itself.
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Post by mimino on Oct 2, 2021 14:13:00 GMT -5
my dp crosses right there where that x is. i think you're talking about this one: superchargersonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/4FJ218im.pdf on page 14. i think they just went with that one because it fit that particular kit better. i doubt there is any difference where you drain, as long as it finds its way into the pan below. i'll post what location i pick once i clean this dirty ass windage tray i got from the jy this morning. holy shit, it was one dirty bitch... i did nick it on a rod cap in one spot when trying to take it down. don't even know why it was in the way, but it looks like someone was jacking with the crank pulley, so they probably moved it. sure hope that's not gonna be an issue. will post pics of that also. might also do an a/c delete while i'm at it (already have the faux pulley).
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Post by mimino on Oct 2, 2021 20:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 2, 2021 20:52:46 GMT -5
yeah thats the document, my point was if theyre installing a bulkhead type fitting in that location, there absolutely shouldnt be any reason to contact anything behind there, granted you dont go protruding into there too deeply. if ya cant do it ya cant do it, but that location i think is going to work for me whenever i plan to switch my drain up.
the nicks on the windage tray there shouldnt matter, the gasket is supposed to seal there anyhow.
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Post by mimino on Oct 2, 2021 23:15:59 GMT -5
i don't think it was a bulkhead for them, since they talk about tapping that thing. i'm sleeping on it tonight and will update tomorrow if i get anywhere.
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 2, 2021 23:19:18 GMT -5
yeah its not really a bulkhead exactly, they NPT tap the windage tray and the fitting they use has a nut to lock it in place
let us know what you decide!
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Post by mimino on Oct 3, 2021 19:12:23 GMT -5
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Post by mimino on Oct 4, 2021 16:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 4, 2021 16:47:39 GMT -5
maybe it was pinched when you tightened it down? ive always seen the old gaskets just flat as all hell lol when i did the turbo car it didnt give me any issues, went right in and was good. but when i did my daily i somehow knocked the gasket off on the bellhousing side before tightening it down and put everything back together and filled with oil before i realized it.
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Post by mimino on Oct 4, 2021 16:54:29 GMT -5
yeah, i'm not a fan of how this felpro looks. i don't understand why it's not flat... where do you dab rtv on this, btw? on all four corners?
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 4, 2021 17:11:01 GMT -5
i use a little bit of rtv on the oil pump side, i dont think i ever used any the bellhousing side
all the new gaskets ive seen start off looking like the felpro, it squishes into place when its torqued to seal. the ones coming out of engines are flat as hell after being torqued in place over who knows how many miles and heat cycles...they deform then lose their seal and start leaking.
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Post by mimino on Oct 5, 2021 11:08:14 GMT -5
so i got the windage and the oil pan on last night and just poured some oil in it this morning. did the two step tightening on the windage tray and used my torque wrench this time. fingers crossed this did the trick and not tore it up like last time. fitting looks to connect to the drain quite nicely, just need to make sure it clears my dp now lol might need to "machine" either or both, as it was sitting a bit too close to it, but that's with the heat wrap on the dp. need to install a/c delete pulley and get rid of the a/c lines and condenser. trying to not hack them up and remove them with proper tools lol
my oil pickup still had a bunch of debris in it (rtv pieces, old pieces of that fitting that got destroyed, some paint flakes from the vc, blue windage tray gasket pieces). cleaned it up and blew it out with some air. man, i feel like such an abuser... i'll run my older oil in it, then pour some fresh one in, just in case. we'll keep y'all updated.
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Post by mimino on Oct 6, 2021 11:56:36 GMT -5
put it all together last night and idled her a bit. no leaks or drain issues that i can see. we'll see how she does on the road under boost. a/c delete pulley looks to be spinning nicely and is way better looking than that hunky a/c compressor. removed several lines (had to sawzall one off...) and condenser. liking the open space a lot better! need to get zip-ties to mount two of my small fans behind the radiator, as those were attached to the condenser before (probably doing diddly-shit before). "clearance" lol had to trim the fitting a bit after this pic was taken.
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Post by krux303 on Oct 6, 2021 16:48:44 GMT -5
put it all together last night and idled her a bit. no leaks or drain issues that i can see. we'll see how she does on the road under boost. a/c delete pulley looks to be spinning nicely and is way better looking than that hunky a/c compressor. removed several lines (had to sawzall one off...) and condenser. liking the open space a lot better! need to get zip-ties to mount two of my small fans behind the radiator, as those were attached to the condenser before (probably doing diddly-shit before). "clearance" lol had to trim the fitting a bit after this pic was taken. Wow that's tight! Let us know how it works out on the road.
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