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Post by krux303 on Oct 4, 2020 19:42:20 GMT -5
I'm looking to install a wideband. Autometer wires are only 8ft long which is kind of short.
Does anyone have a recommendation on where to run the wires out of the cabin and to the 02 sensor?
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 5, 2020 16:00:15 GMT -5
autometer's site appears to be inoperable at the moment or id ask what model and lookup the manual to see what youre working with. their site just says "we'll be right back" no matter what page you try and hit, maybe theyre doing maintenance or an upgrade or something...
anyhow, i have more experience with innovate widebands (lc1/xd16 and MTX-L). what are you wanting to do, add a bung and just run this as its own sensor in your exhaust?
or does the autometer have a narrowband output so you can replace the upstream sensor and send the narrowband output back to the stock ecu? (essentially what i did in the turbo car)
is the autometer a gauge and a wideband controller (like lc1/xd16)? or is it all housed in the gauge (like MTX-L)?
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Post by krux303 on Oct 5, 2020 20:10:08 GMT -5
I'm looking at Autometer model 3379.
I do not have a cat on my car so I would just run it to my 2nd o2 sensor housing.
I love how they only give you 8ft for the wiring harness. So Its pretty much to the gauge, down the floor pain through a floor grommet to the sensor. The plug is huge fairly big and without cutting the wires, not way to go around getting through a small hole.
I'm not aware of the output. I do know you can hook it up to a stand alone system.
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Post by TheEvilZX2 on Oct 6, 2020 16:25:56 GMT -5
Ok, the 3379 looks like the controller it contained in the gauge like the MTX-L.
2nd O2 bung would work.
8ft should be plenty, plus the length of the sensor wire. I run pretty much everything through the factory firewall grommet in the passenger footwell area. Big ol round grommet, stick a knife through it under the factory wiring and unless youve got a huge bundle of wires everything should hide nicely beneath the factory harness. Plus where you want to run it in the downstream O2 factory location, its right there.
Also looks like the 3379 only has a wideband output, so you wouldnt be able to send a signal back to the PCM, only to a datalogger or tuner.
The innovate units have two outputs, narrow and wide at the same time. I believe the AEMs have either one output or both but i know (at the time i was researching) they could only run one or the other, not both at the same time. Being able to run both is a huge plus in my book, replacing the factory sensor AND being able to datalog. Replacing the factory upstream sensor with the wideband emulating a narrowband signal back to the computer has its own benefits, the wideband controller can provide a "better" (cleaner and/or faster signal) than the factory narrowband sensor can provide.
damn after reading that i sound like an innovate salesman. but seriously though i really like their products
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Post by krux303 on Oct 10, 2020 5:35:01 GMT -5
Ok, the 3379 looks like the controller it contained in the gauge like the MTX-L. 2nd O2 bung would work. 8ft should be plenty, plus the length of the sensor wire. I run pretty much everything through the factory firewall grommet in the passenger footwell area. Big ol round grommet, stick a knife through it under the factory wiring and unless youve got a huge bundle of wires everything should hide nicely beneath the factory harness. Plus where you want to run it in the downstream O2 factory location, its right there. Also looks like the 3379 only has a wideband output, so you wouldnt be able to send a signal back to the PCM, only to a datalogger or tuner. The innovate units have two outputs, narrow and wide at the same time. I believe the AEMs have either one output or both but i know (at the time i was researching) they could only run one or the other, not both at the same time. Being able to run both is a huge plus in my book, replacing the factory sensor AND being able to datalog. Replacing the factory upstream sensor with the wideband emulating a narrowband signal back to the computer has its own benefits, the wideband controller can provide a "better" (cleaner and/or faster signal) than the factory narrowband sensor can provide. damn after reading that i sound like an innovate salesman. but seriously though i really like their products Sounds like you are a salesman. I'm not going crazy build but more needing to know if I am running rich or lean with my na build.
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